Monday, April 9, 2007

Splinter Cell Double Agent - Xbox 360/Playstation 3 Comparison Shots

Scroll down to find out which side is on which platform













The right hand side is Xbox 360, left hand side is Playstation 3, but you probably already knew that, didn't ya?

The key difference between the two platforms seems to be in the lighting, amazing how much of a difference a little bit of dynamic lighting will affect the visual quality of a game.

72 comments:

Anonymous said...

Which is better? :)

Anonymous said...

Xbox 360

Anonymous said...

Actually HDR blooming in many situations doesn't look believable and isn't impressive though it looks much more dramatic. There are a few pictures where the PS3 side is much more realistic, the last picture for instance, there is way too much shine on Sam's face and the PS3 side is much softer, BUT if you compare the US flag patches, there is no excuse for the PS3's texture quality to be so shoddy. Looking at many of the screenshots, it looks like many shaders didn't translate over properly and if this is a PS3 issue or the dev. got too lazy, there is no excuse. Overall they released an inferior product.

Anonymous said...

In the last picture, the 360 version looks infinitely better. Sam's face, the enemy, the textures, the lighting, etc, etc. This is obviously poor development, but is probably a testament to the level of ease between developing for 360 and PS3.

bryan said...

all I can say...is...p0wn3d

Anonymous said...

I won't decide my purchase of either Xbox360 or PS3 based on those screenshots because of:
1) are those screenshots captured directly from the system or from physical digital camera?
2) are those screenshots from the same display output?
3) I may question the game developer's capabilities of getting the most from both systems.
4) I will decide my purchase based on screenshots from Gran Turismo fro Xbox360 and PS3.

Anonymous said...

some of the shots don't even look like the same game. Yes the 360 and ps3 have bout the same power, but more should be tapped already out of the ps3. pathetic. plus if there is online, we know the 360 is better on that.

Anonymous said...

i own a 360 and am a self-proclaimed xbox fan boy but i find it hard to believe the ps3 version looks that bad. where are these pictures from? are the ps3 screens from the final version?

Sean Bryant said...

It's a port. This happens on every single port ever.

Luxo Jr. said...

Why does the dude in the last picture in the Xbox 360 version look a tad like Bill Gates?

Anonymous said...

It helps if you use the same shots for both of these. I know it's hard, but tons of fanboy egos are on the line, you can't afford to do a second rate job.

Ardor said...

I seriously doubt that those shots are from the PS3. There's no way, Xbox1 maybe? But not PS3.

Anonymous said...

Wait, where are the Wii screenshots to compare?

For all the fun that its controller is supposed to provide (which is next to none, having played both wii sports and tiger woods), it means nothing if the wii doesn't have any good games. Realistically, what outside of smash bros. is a compelling game? paper mario, metroid? uh, no.

Anonymous said...

This is a load of flamebait bull.

Compare whitepoints, e.g. any text supered on screen ("investigate geothermal plant"). The PS3 image is consistently gray compared to the xbox360 capture. Whoever manufactured these comparisons deliberately lowered the brightness of the PS3 image.

Or are you going to tell us that the PS3 cannot render the color white??

Anonymous said...

"4) I will decide my purchase based on screenshots from Gran Turismo fro Xbox360 and PS3."

I bet PS3 will be better as you have to emulate PS3 on X360 to play GT on it ;)

Anonymous said...

dont bring the wii into this. it's in a league of its own. if you want to compare the wii, you cant use screenshots, you have to compare the controls of ported games, cause isn't it already obvious from sales that with the wii, graphics dont matter? idiot..

Anonymous said...

Almost all of the shots look better on the 360 but why do the nightvision pictures look so blurry on the 360 side and so crisp on the ps3 side.

Turki said...

Xbox 360 looks better. But that doesn't mean PS3 is _teh_ suck.

It's too early to see full PS3 power honestly. Not that I don't regret buying one -- but I definitely know that PS3 still hasn't been tapped. not before a year, may be.

Anonymous said...

So what are you running this on? HDMI, component or composite? cause you cant really compare xbox 360 version running on component to a ps3 version running over composite

Anonymous said...

I find it hilarious all the PS3 apologists trying to quash their buyer's remorse by denying the fact that all the PS3 shots look like crap comparatively in all metrics (lighting, model detail, textures...).

Anonymous said...

Wow, did you take those screens with a polaroid? Why are you even thinking of showing comparison shots that aren't 1280x720 and captured directly?

Both sides look like ass.

Anonymous said...

go fuck yourselves! WTF ru fuckheads flaming PS3 for?360 ain that fucktastic either

Ahmed said...

Just to clarify all issues.

They were taken directly from the TV, no camera involved.

When compared to the 360 the ps3 does tend to wash out graphics (see RSX is a Washout post on this blog).

They are both from the next gen consoles, no Xbox 1 comparisons here. If you look at Xbox 1 screenshots you'll see they look significantly less detailed than the ps3.

Yes, it's the final retail version of both games.

If I were delibrately trying to make the ps3's graphics look bad I really probably should have swapped out the night vision ones, the 360 looks terrible with those (courtesy of a 'special' effect on the 360 by ubisoft).

The difference between composite and HDMI is negligent, it will also not affect these screenshots because 1) They are partial screen grabs 2) They are the same resolution 3) Even HDMI won't sharpen up blurry textures and poor lighting.

Once again, these are taken direct from the console output, like any other screenshot, they are not offscreen polaroid shots.


Finally, I own a 360 and not a ps3, if anyone was wondering. All I can say is I don't have a bias towards one or the other but everyone has a right to their own opinion, I can't change that so I'll leave it be. If you think I'm biased, fine (see the eldersscrolls comparison shots, I was accused of being a ps3 fanboy apologist on several forums).

If anyone would like to pitch in and buy me a ps3 I'll be more than glad, you can contact me at thebackbuffer@gmail.com, please do so, I'd love you like no tomorrow :-)

Anonymous said...

Love like theres no tomorrow or $600? mmm, I think id be more loved with the $600. lol

Ok, so are you using component or composite on the ps3? You said theres no difference between component and HDMI (which there is if you have something thats outputting in 1080p though this isn't) but there is certainly a notable difference between composite and component

Ahmed said...

Well if there was anything fishy about the composite/component cables thing it would have been noticable, there would be extreme aliasing present in the screenshots. As you can see both the 360 and ps3 are producing graphics as sharp as knives.

So both are at HD resolutions.

Ahmed said...

btw, my undying love is so worth $600 :-)

Anonymous said...

Fair enough then, I see nothing else to complain about. Though being a port its hardly surprising that its not as good.

Still think ill keep my $600 though :P

Anonymous said...

Oh and good job on the article, your on qj.net as well

Anonymous said...

Pffffff, 360? Forget about it....Fuckheads

Anonymous said...

agreed!

Anonymous said...

MS feeds you with steaming piles of sh**

Ahmed said...

No argument, ports are almost always subpar. I do think the ps3 is technically far more powerful compared to the 360, I recall John Carmack said it is about 20% more powerful (this was sometime ago before the ps3 was ever released).

Having said that it really looks like all first party titles and games developed exclusively for the ps3 will look really good and I wouldn't be too surprised if within a year first party and exclusive ps3 titles looked heaps better than 360 games, but ports will ports and they are here to stay, they are also the only ones you can make comparison shots of.

I think when GT5 and Forza 2 are released we will finally have a really fair comparison between both platforms.

Anonymous said...

To those trying to chalk off the PS3's inferiority to "wrong" cabling, please. While the difference would be visible (although hardly) when you are actually playing the console on a >26 inch LCD, you don't seriously believe it will make a difference when it comes to small JPEG screen grabs? That is really grasping for straws.

Ahmed said...

First of all they aren't JPG, they are PNG, look it up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Png

Secondly, when the difference is astounding as what you can see from these small screen grabs then you know for sure the difference is going to be that much bigger on a bigger screen.

Anonymous said...

Set the gamma at the same setting and run this test again. This is ridiculous.

Ahmed said...

Same settings for both, the Playstation 3 port just doesn't have nearly the same amount of dynamic lighting, seems like most of it is just pre-baked omni directional.

Anonymous said...

360 ftw. sony fanboy STFU. your system sucks. you just spent $600, please sell it on ebay for $100 and post the link. ill buy it. and then smash it like the did on smashmyps3.com. the nVidia GPU sucks compared to the ATi GPU in the 360, thats why the PS3 sucks. 360 FTW.

Anonymous said...

As an outsider (meaning I own neither a 360, p3, or wii) I'd have to say the majority of you sound like idiots. Lets say the 360 took away the market from the p3 why do any of you fanboys believe that the gaming industry is going to be better off with MS owning the lion share of consol biz, is it there past history w/ operating systems. Sony is no better. But to these two moronic giants pining for are affection, well this is the first time I’ve seen that we’ve got the these two companies by the balls… well at least a couple of pubs.

Anonymous said...

All this proves is Ubisoft rushed this port to the PS3. Not all ports look worse, some look better. Case in point: Oblivion for PS3 looks and performs FAR better than the 360 version. The PS3 has games that prove it's capable of more than what Ubisoft did with Splinter Cell: Double Agent.

So quit with all the ignorant "PS3 SUXORS!" remarks and grow half a brain people.

Anonymous said...

To put it bluntly Where t F is the xbox gettin all that extra light from? at night they sky is Blue?? yea maybe in another galaxy- just because its presented better means nothing towards graphical capability. the ps3 version actually looks more realistic in some of the scenes, more gritty and wholesome, not pampered up for console dweebs(not console owners, I mean the kinda people who puts games on easy and then say "Yea I completed it well quickly innit" who dont like it when 'its too dark' for them to bother trowelling through - plus why in the last scene is the background so dark on the xbox version?? texture problems??????????? someone answer this plz

Ahmed said...

There is a patch for Oblivion out on the 360 that improves on its graphics...

Ahmed said...

Umm, the extra lighting is coming from the developers who put it there because the game was developed for the 360, because it could handle them since it wasn't a port.

As for your 'grittier' comment, well, to each his own, personally I prefer all the 360 ones save for the night vision shots.

Whether or not you do agree about the grittiness you can't change the fact there is more lighting and more visibility on the 360 than the ps3, not to say the ps3 is weaker than the 360, just that this one game looks better on the 360. It was developed for it after all...

Anonymous said...

Putting in extra lighting where available is a nextgen idea that is redundant, whats next gen about a stealth game where you can magically see everything with your fairy light. Geez. shoulda just ported Zelda to both

Ahmed said...

So you're saying Ubisoft meant to make the graphics look band and drab but could only fully achieve that effect on the ps3?

Did they also mesh together the characters mouths together? With the power of CELL it is quite obvious that the man can see without glasses, must be why he isn't wearing them on the ps3 screenshot.

Anonymous said...

Ubisoft cant handle the threading needed to achieve the same results on ps3, the ps3 can do it, thats not a problem ubisoft obviously cant.

Ahmed said...

I think you are somewhat confused here.

First of all, like I keep saying, Double Agent is a port on the ps3, second of all, the CPU has very little to do with graphics, multi threading isn't going to fix anything.

Finally, Ubisoft is a big game developer, Splinter Cell is a big title, Ubisoft has heaps of big titles, if Ubisoft can't handle something odds are plenty of other developers won't be able to either. I think they can, the xbox 360 has three cores on its CPU and each core is capable of two threads making.

Brendan said...

---The difference between composite and HDMI is negligent, it will also not affect these screenshots because 1) They are partial screen grabs 2) They are the same resolution 3) Even HDMI won't sharpen up blurry textures and poor lighting.---

Are you f**king kidding me? Composite is not capable of HDMI's color scheme OR resolution. You just admitted your whole fanboy biased comparison is a hoax. Good job.

Anonymous said...

This is retarded "The difference between composite and HDMI is negligent, it will also not affect these screenshots because 1) They are partial screen grabs 2) They are the same resolution 3) Even HDMI won't sharpen up blurry textures and poor lighting.".

I hate the PS3, and am all about the 360, but thats god damn ridiculous. You can't put the PS3 in composite which puts out 480i compared to component or HDMI which can have high def output, thats just fucking stupid. When you use component, HDMI, etc, the PS3 could be using a higher res texture pack, more lights, etc, that only users with HDTV's use.

"Its the same resolution", doubtful, unless they are both being broadcast in 1080i on the same tv, then it would be.

Ahmed said...

Really? Does HDMI also add more dynamic lights to the scene? Does it up texture resolution? Does it add more finer details to characters (such as the glasses in the last screenshot).

Does the ps3 NEED HDMI to output the same graphics as the 360 can with good old component?

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WackyCh00 said...

To be fair the 360 outweighs the ps3 in its abilities all at once and in its abilities to do things together. the ps3 is just a powerhouse but to say either is better cannot be determined until developers start making specific decisions on games and their implementation and how each platform handles these forthcoming changes/innovations

Ahmed said...

oh and to clarify, I meant component, not composite (from earlier on).

If it was composite (480p/i) then it would ahve been bleeding obvious, I've tried playing games on composite, there is SO MUCH ALIASING present that those screen grabs would have been nothing more than pixels the size of puppy heads.

The 360 is capable of 1080p and ANA will automatically upscale anything to the highest possible resolution supported, so 720p games WILL run at upscaled 1080p on a 1080p capable HDTV wherein 720p games will stay 720p in the ps3. Unless you wanna somehow disable ANA you're not going to be able to get past this 'issue' (if you'd like to call it that).

Anonymous said...

I dont think those are real...i mean i just beat SC: DA for 360 and it deffinatly didn't look that dark maybe if you turn the brightness way way down.

Anonymous said...

looks like the ps3 got pwnd again!

the 360 and the ps3 are still having comparison shots. I find it pretty amusing, since ps3 owners say "My system is better than all others" and the 360 owners say the same thing.

Who cares, as long as the game plays the same, we all win!

Robert Woolley said...

which is better? PC

frontieruk said...

To all the fucktards asing the cable/display unit being used... if the captures are from the PS3 it'll be captured on the hardware before display so that's how it 'should' look before hitting the screen

Ben Brooks said...

Obviously the PS3 version is going to look a little crappier than the xbox360's

think about it, the 360 has been out for well over a year now, devs have had time to get used to the engine the 360 runs and what its features are

the PS3 has been out for just over a month, what do you expect?!?!

cybermad said...

I wans't sure theses were ps3 screenshot, but I've downloaded the video comparaison on ign.com and theses screen aren't fake!

We all know ps3 can be better than this, it's just very sad ubisoft port the game this way.

And still the ps3 version is very laggy compare to the xbox360 version :P

If you have a insider account go download the video and watch the mouth of the character on the ps3 version !

LOL! sad to say, but I paid 600$ for that ps3 :P

Free PS3/Wii said...

Are you sure you were not drunk and got the sides mixed up? lol

Anonymous said...

@ahmed
that must explain why the xbox360 looks much better then the ps3 -.-||||

everybody knows that the ps3 processing power is much greater then the 360's and GT5 will determine which system has the better graphics. however i'm still neutral to both systems, I R TEH WIIFANBOI (though i do have all three)

Anonymous said...

Just to clarify something:
You may find this comment freakishly weird or something but there is a noticeable improvement in picture sharpness when you use an HDMI cable instead of a component cable on a PS3. I don't know why but it just is... I have a PS3 and I can confirm that this happens. Here are the cables I used and the order of the picture quality they provide:
Monster HDMI cable
A cheap HDMI cable I got from buying a DVD player
Psyclone Component cable
Official Sony PS2 component cable

I'm not saying that these will make the graphics of this game on the PS3 look any better... because they do look like that. (I have this game, too) I'm just saying that HDMI still provides better picture quality on the PS3 than component.

89thGuard said...

O.M.G. Too many idiot Sony fanboys! I know your all bitching about the cables used and how cause its a port the PS3 version will be worse off. That i can deal with cause your just too stupid to realise how much better the 360 is than your £425 heater. What i can't deal with is your fall back arguement of "Well the PS3's only been out a month.....Wait a year and games will look much better"............Well duh. Give any developer a year with a new console and their games will look much, much better. But the fact of the matter remains. By then developers will have had 2 years with the 360 and games will still be ahead of the PS3 counter-parts by leaps and bounds. Plus, if you really want to be finicky, try comparing your release games to the 360 release games. Perfect Dark Zero still easily blows the PS3's best out the water. As well as Dead or Alive 4. Admitedly not quite a launch title over in the UK but still......SO gorgeous to look at and play. Even now. So do your self a favour and instead of holding onto your PS3 for a year and hoping someone, somewhere doesn't jump ship to the 360 and actually makes a good game for your 'Big Black Box'.........go buy a 360, where you can play those games NOW!

Anonymous said...

I find it amazing how no one can really tell that the PS3, even in these obviously doctored screeshots, has better graphics. Look at the nightvision shot, the picture with the moon, and especially the last picture. They all look 200x more realistic than the 360. Look at skin tone, skin sheen, colors, all look better on the ps3

Anonymous said...

Yea I agree! Theres a difference between brightness and realism.

Anonymous said...

Actually I think the big difference with these screenshots happens to be the DirectX shaders which are used with the xbox360. The last picture has awesome lighting and it looks like some of sam's skin is glistening, same with the shots that have ICE. It looks like what the shaders do for free on the 360 wasnt recreated with the port to the PS3 which is pretty lazy. I'd actually be interested to see a game created for the PS3 and ported to the Xbox360 to see if there would be a similar case.

Anonymous said...

i used to work with unreal engine 2 and looking at these screen shots makes it seem as if the devs didnt hit the "rebuild all" button. it's obveous almost none of the post processing effects were enabled (the glowing nights sky[HDR], the volumetric light, even that terrible "tv style" night vision filter is applied in post) and the lightmaps well... look unfinished. it seems only UE3's completely dnyamic shadows made it in ( look at the last picture... thats just some dynamic shadow, whereas the right side has all the HDR and the baked lightmaps).

annonymous was definately right about the shaders. you can apply them to textures in UE, but you have to "rebuild" everything so that they work with the light sources (you can see this as none of the specular lights are correct - look at the ice shader, it doesent correspond to the light, its just been applied)

also, the smoke particles that Sam glides below dont have any lighting applied. i'm not too sure of how UE3 handles particles and lights but even in older Unreal Engine releases you could find ways to "soften" particles. (which was done in the photo on the right)

i havent really looked into the ps3 version (just this post) but from these shots i feel pretty confident that the level hasn't been compiled. i do feel like this is a joke, no one would let something that simple slide. i really dont understand.

and it isnt a hardware difference... both machines should be capable of handling a fully rendered scene.

cool engine though.

Anonymous said...

Please say you mean you used component not compoite?

Because composite is one of the worst cables you can use (the only worse cable is RF).

And to round it all of, composite isn't even HD. The highest resolution possible for composite cables is 480i. So if you did use composite (like you said) then this comparison is pointless.

Grog140 said...

Almost every comparison around you will see the same thing.This is not a cable issue, it's a PS3 issue.

Look at any comparison and the PS3 version always looks lighter and washed out and most always has inferior texture quality (likely because of less memory).

I know that these shots aren't altered in any way, and taken in the same resolution.

Anonymous said...

This is stupid. all this talk on better graphics. I got me a ps3 and it is worth every penny, suprising huh. But we've have done this exact same thing with my friends, the 360 lovers. I convinced every one of them that the ps3 is better. Think about it. seriously, when it comes to online, all that talk about the ps3 being bad is crap! It's really the same. And we got that thing HOME coming out for the ps3. Oh!! and its free.

Anonymous said...

"I find it amazing how no one can really tell that the PS3, even in these obviously doctored screeshots, has better graphics. Look at the nightvision shot, the picture with the moon, and especially the last picture. They all look 200x more realistic than the 360. Look at skin tone, skin sheen, colors, all look better on the ps3"


Are you really choosing to be that fanboyish that you would rather appear to be blind then admit that the 360 is better?

I can easily admit that the NVG pictures on the ps3 are better, but the moon shot, look at the door. Much much cleaner and sharper on the 360 version. You can say that it looks more realistic, but in my world things have color. Not grey grey and more grey. FFS even the windows look grey.

Last picture, I don't know what is up with the 360 background (it looks like there is none...). The ?! boxes are cleaner in the ps3 version and the colors of the people are a preference. However the 360 version is much better in detail, compare the faces and you see that the 360 is better by far. Also look at the hands which again are graphically better on the 360 by far, and finally the flag on the uniform.

VIVA LA ps3 BECAUSE IT CAN MAKE SOME STUPID BLURRY BARS AND CALL THEM A FLAG!

Anonymous said...

The PS3 has you set up the lighting for your TV!! These shots do nothing for the PS3. I bought this game about a week ago and I have seen most of these scenes in the game and I would have said the pics on the right were the PS3!!! I have been very impressed with the lighting and special effects that you get with SC on the PS3. Take the time to set your system up right and you will too!! Sorry XBox Someone is trying to help you out. These are PS3 images with your TV set up correctly

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